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The term "'''Stock clues'''" originally referred to clues that have been used since approximately the days of the GE College Bowl radio show, or at least the 1990s.  For a long time, those clues were recycled as [[lead-in]] clues by inexperienced teams who don't know any better, and passed through the final editing stage by editors who should have known better. Such stock clues were often [[biographical clues]], and could also have resulted from excessive name-dropping of a term of actual importance for continuous years.
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{{confuse|the food-themed side event [[There Will Be Stock Clues]]}}<onlyinclude>
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The term "'''stock clue'''" is a largely outdated term for [[clue]]s that lack academic importance and yet routinely occur in quizbowl questions.
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Most examples of stock clues are [[biographical clues]] (especially in [[science]] questions) or [[trivia]].
  
In an ironic twist, the term "stock clue" has experienced something of a backlash in recent years, as questions get better-written and some players misuse the term to refer to any clue as "stock" that they remember from previous questions, regardless of how important the clue is, how infrequently it has appeared before, and where the clue is placed in the question. Due to the frequency and annoyance of its misuse, the phrase "stock clue" is therefore falling into disuse among older players.  
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Stock clues, as originally conceived, were considered extinct in "[[good quizbowl]]" by the early 2010s due to higher standards for [[academic]] importance.
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However, the term "stock clue" is still used in modern quizbowl (especially high school quizbowl) to describe clues that appear frequently in questions on a certain topic—often in a negative light. This contemporary usage is seen by some as an ambiguous anachronism.</onlyinclude>
  
The presence of a given difficult clue within (or outside) power across multiple high school tossups within the span of a year or two is not a sufficient condition for that clue to be stock.
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==Etymology==
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The English adjective "[[wiktionary:stock#Adjective|stock]]" means "routinely used" or "cliché."
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In particular, a [https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-english/stock_3 stock answer or phrase]
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is one "that is always used and so is not really useful." See also [[wikipedia:stock character|stock character]].
  
This list of stock clues is provided in the hope that people stop using them as lead-ins, or perhaps ever.  
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The chiefly British English (or [[wiktionary:Commonwealth English|Commonwealth English]]) phrase "'''[[wiktionary:chestnut|chestnut]]'''" or "old chestnut" may also refer to stock clues and is commonly used in the [[trivia community]].
  
==List of Old-Style Stock Clues and Their Immediately Buzzable Answers==
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==History==
===Literature===
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Stock clues proliferated in pre-modern "good quizbowl" when inexperienced question writers and editors who didn't know any better [[question recycling|recycled]] clues from past questions.
* "Her childhood friend Truman Capote": Harper Lee (also, anything involving Dill being based on Capote).
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Players often learned stock clues through [[osmosis]] or deliberate [[memorization]], but not [[real knowledge]].
* "Planned to attend Juilliard, but lost her tuition money on a New York subway train": Carson McCullers
 
* "wounded at the Battle of Lepanto": Miguel de Cervantes
 
* "refused the 1926 Pulitzer Prize": Sinclair Lewis
 
  
===General History===
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By the early 2010s, awareness of and conformance to the core values of "good quizbowl" grew to the point where traditional stock clues became obsolete.
*"tutored by Bairam Khan": Akbar the Great
 
*"exiled in Mongolia": Vyacheslav Molotov
 
*"cup-bearer to the king of Kish": Sargon the Great
 
*"wrote ''The Army of the Future''": Charles de Gaulle
 
*"accused of having a gold spoon in his mouth": Martin Van Buren
 
*practically any information regarding Alexander Hamilton that once was considered "obscure" about him but now is almost common knowledge due to the popularity of a certain musical bearing his name
 
  
===Science===
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===[[wikipedia:Semantic drift|Semantic drift]] and misuse===
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Once traditional stock clues no longer existed, the term "stock clue" began to gain other meanings due to growing [[ignorance of quizbowl history]] and the definition of the English word "stock."
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Now, the term "stock clue" is often used to mean any clue that a player remembers from previous questions—regardless of how important it is, how frequently it has appeared before, or where the clue is placed in the question.
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{| style="border: none; background: none; text-align: center;" class="wikitable"
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| style="border: none; background: none;" |
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! width="220" | important (academic, relevant)
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! width="220" | not important (trivial)
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|-
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! proportionate (deserved)
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| style="background: #e4ffe0;" | "important clue," "famous clue"
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| style="background: #ffd6d6;" |
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|-
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! excessively frequent
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| style="background: #ffeee4;" | "stock clue" (modern)
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| style="background: #ffd6d6;" | "stock clue" (traditional)
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|}
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Stock clues, as originally conceived, do not include [[important]] clues that used in excess of their actual importance, as those clues fail the first criterion of being unimportant. However, clues like these are often referred to as "stock" in contemporary usage.
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Although semantic drift is part of the natural evolution of language, one can communicate more clearly by not using the term "stock," which is no longer useful because:
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1. "stock" in the original sense is likely misapplied because traditional stock clues are extinct in modern quizbowl;
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2. the term is ambiguous, so people won't know which sense is meant.
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Better alternatives include: common, stale, overused, misplaced, easy, frequently used, popular, often mined, well-trodden, reused, trendy, canonical.
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==Examples==
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This is a list of some "old-style" stock clues that may have existed in pre-modern quizbowl.
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*"wounded at the Battle of Lepanto": Miguel de Cervantes
 
*"son of a sailmaker": Victor Grignard
 
*"son of a sailmaker": Victor Grignard
*"Ideal Percent Alcohol Content of Vodka": Dmitri Mendeleev
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*"researched the ideal percent alcohol content of vodka": Dmitri Mendeleev
 
*"apprenticed to a bookbinder": Michael Faraday
 
*"apprenticed to a bookbinder": Michael Faraday
*"Advocated high doses of Vitamin C": Linus Pauling
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*"written on a napkin": Laffer Curve
*"1% of the world's energy": Haber-Bosch Process
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*"worked in a machine shop": Otto Rank
*"Offered presidency of Israel": Albert Einstein
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Perhaps they could be considered second-order stock clues themselves, having been invoked so often in questions or discussions about stock clues.<ref>https://aseemsdb.me/static/packet_archive/HS/2010_Ben_Cooper/Ben_Cooper_2010_Packet_12_%5BFinals_1%5D_COMPLETE.pdf#page=1</ref><ref>https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/search.php?keywords=bookbinder</ref>
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==Non-examples==
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*"begins with a clarinet ''glissando''": ''Rhapsody in Blue''
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*"thesis on Indo-European languages": Ferdinand de Saussure
  
===Fine Arts===
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Though these clues are commonly used, they are not stock because they are legitimately significant aspects of their answerlines.
*"research on aldehydes": Aleksandr Borodin
 
*"Taught at an all girls school": Gustav Holst
 
  
===Religion/Mythology/Philosophy===
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==See also==
*"Originally studied mechanical engineering": Ludwig Wittgenstein
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*[[m stock m]]
  
===Social Science===
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==References==
*"written on a napkin": Laffer Curve
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*"thesis on Indo-European languages": Ferdinand de Saussure
 
*"worked in a machine shop": Otto Rank
 
  
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Latest revision as of 21:07, 31 July 2023

Not to be confused with the food-themed side event There Will Be Stock Clues.

The term "stock clue" is a largely outdated term for clues that lack academic importance and yet routinely occur in quizbowl questions. Most examples of stock clues are biographical clues (especially in science questions) or trivia.

Stock clues, as originally conceived, were considered extinct in "good quizbowl" by the early 2010s due to higher standards for academic importance. However, the term "stock clue" is still used in modern quizbowl (especially high school quizbowl) to describe clues that appear frequently in questions on a certain topic—often in a negative light. This contemporary usage is seen by some as an ambiguous anachronism.

Etymology

The English adjective "stock" means "routinely used" or "cliché." In particular, a stock answer or phrase is one "that is always used and so is not really useful." See also stock character.

The chiefly British English (or Commonwealth English) phrase "chestnut" or "old chestnut" may also refer to stock clues and is commonly used in the trivia community.

History

Stock clues proliferated in pre-modern "good quizbowl" when inexperienced question writers and editors who didn't know any better recycled clues from past questions. Players often learned stock clues through osmosis or deliberate memorization, but not real knowledge.

By the early 2010s, awareness of and conformance to the core values of "good quizbowl" grew to the point where traditional stock clues became obsolete.

Semantic drift and misuse

Once traditional stock clues no longer existed, the term "stock clue" began to gain other meanings due to growing ignorance of quizbowl history and the definition of the English word "stock."

Now, the term "stock clue" is often used to mean any clue that a player remembers from previous questions—regardless of how important it is, how frequently it has appeared before, or where the clue is placed in the question.

important (academic, relevant) not important (trivial)
proportionate (deserved) "important clue," "famous clue"
excessively frequent "stock clue" (modern) "stock clue" (traditional)

Stock clues, as originally conceived, do not include important clues that used in excess of their actual importance, as those clues fail the first criterion of being unimportant. However, clues like these are often referred to as "stock" in contemporary usage.

Although semantic drift is part of the natural evolution of language, one can communicate more clearly by not using the term "stock," which is no longer useful because: 1. "stock" in the original sense is likely misapplied because traditional stock clues are extinct in modern quizbowl; 2. the term is ambiguous, so people won't know which sense is meant. Better alternatives include: common, stale, overused, misplaced, easy, frequently used, popular, often mined, well-trodden, reused, trendy, canonical.

Examples

This is a list of some "old-style" stock clues that may have existed in pre-modern quizbowl.

  • "wounded at the Battle of Lepanto": Miguel de Cervantes
  • "son of a sailmaker": Victor Grignard
  • "researched the ideal percent alcohol content of vodka": Dmitri Mendeleev
  • "apprenticed to a bookbinder": Michael Faraday
  • "written on a napkin": Laffer Curve
  • "worked in a machine shop": Otto Rank

Perhaps they could be considered second-order stock clues themselves, having been invoked so often in questions or discussions about stock clues.[1][2]

Non-examples

  • "begins with a clarinet glissando": Rhapsody in Blue
  • "thesis on Indo-European languages": Ferdinand de Saussure

Though these clues are commonly used, they are not stock because they are legitimately significant aspects of their answerlines.

See also

References

  1. https://aseemsdb.me/static/packet_archive/HS/2010_Ben_Cooper/Ben_Cooper_2010_Packet_12_%5BFinals_1%5D_COMPLETE.pdf#page=1
  2. https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/search.php?keywords=bookbinder