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The HSNCT still uses 9-minute halves and, to the best of my knowledge (which I'm nearly certain of back to 2008) always has. If there's other stuff you want me to try to look up (no promises, but I'll try), let me know details. [[User:Jonah Greenthal|Jonah]] ([[User talk:Jonah Greenthal|talk]]) 15:04, 18 April 2021 (CDT) | The HSNCT still uses 9-minute halves and, to the best of my knowledge (which I'm nearly certain of back to 2008) always has. If there's other stuff you want me to try to look up (no promises, but I'll try), let me know details. [[User:Jonah Greenthal|Jonah]] ([[User talk:Jonah Greenthal|talk]]) 15:04, 18 April 2021 (CDT) | ||
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+ | I guess I'm misremembering something or maybe it was 8 minutes at some point - looking at a ruleset from as long ago as possible that mentions HSNCT should clear that up. [[User:Matt Weiner|Matt Weiner]] ([[User talk:Matt Weiner|talk]]) 15:55, 18 April 2021 (CDT) | ||
+ | :I don't know if it was ever 8 minutes (though I mildly doubt it given Dwight's podcast being named "9 Minutes"). I do know it is 9 minutes now and has been 9 minutes since no later than 2007. I don't think any of our rules documents have ever explicitly mentioned the HSNCT; as far back as I know, the rules have simply specified an overall standard game length, and then when four-year collegiate matches were changed to 10 minutes (the page says 2013–2014; I'm pretty sure it was several years earlier, but I'm not sure) they were carved out as an exception (and then there were more changes for CC matches, untimed ICT matches, etc.—but those were all exceptions to the general "9 minutes" rule, so there was never any need to specifically mention the HSNCT). [[User:Jonah Greenthal|Jonah]] ([[User talk:Jonah Greenthal|talk]]) 17:05, 18 April 2021 (CDT) | ||
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+ | When did NAQT formally ban bonuses that are not three 10-point parts each from standard format? [[User:Matt Weiner|Matt Weiner]] ([[User talk:Matt Weiner|talk]]) 16:12, 18 April 2021 (CDT) | ||
+ | :I'm not sure. It's an editorial policy, not a rule. The most recent bonus structured otherwise was written in fall 2014 and had one part with two sub-parts worth 5 points each (369315, should you care to look it up); it was also the only one written that competition year. More fundamentally different structures like 30-20-10 and "5 for one, 10 for two, 20 for three, and 30 for all four" had been defunct for at least a couple of years by then; indeed, I don't remember moderating on any of them ever (I've been moderating at NAQT championships since 2009, and I scorekept for you at the 2008 HSNCT), though I do remember them as a player. So I would say 2014 is the fundamental answer to your question, but it's <em>possible</em> the editorial policy wasn't formalized until a little later. [[User:Jonah Greenthal|Jonah]] ([[User talk:Jonah Greenthal|talk]]) 17:05, 18 April 2021 (CDT) |
Latest revision as of 16:07, 18 April 2021
Things to check/add
- Correctness on all - possible citations to archived posts or naqt.com pages announcing the rules changes
- When did HSNCT go from 9 to 10 minute halves? I want to say 2010 but I couldn't find specifics.
- More info on CC SCT/CCCT rules.
The HSNCT still uses 9-minute halves and, to the best of my knowledge (which I'm nearly certain of back to 2008) always has. If there's other stuff you want me to try to look up (no promises, but I'll try), let me know details. Jonah (talk) 15:04, 18 April 2021 (CDT)
I guess I'm misremembering something or maybe it was 8 minutes at some point - looking at a ruleset from as long ago as possible that mentions HSNCT should clear that up. Matt Weiner (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2021 (CDT)
- I don't know if it was ever 8 minutes (though I mildly doubt it given Dwight's podcast being named "9 Minutes"). I do know it is 9 minutes now and has been 9 minutes since no later than 2007. I don't think any of our rules documents have ever explicitly mentioned the HSNCT; as far back as I know, the rules have simply specified an overall standard game length, and then when four-year collegiate matches were changed to 10 minutes (the page says 2013–2014; I'm pretty sure it was several years earlier, but I'm not sure) they were carved out as an exception (and then there were more changes for CC matches, untimed ICT matches, etc.—but those were all exceptions to the general "9 minutes" rule, so there was never any need to specifically mention the HSNCT). Jonah (talk) 17:05, 18 April 2021 (CDT)
When did NAQT formally ban bonuses that are not three 10-point parts each from standard format? Matt Weiner (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2021 (CDT)
- I'm not sure. It's an editorial policy, not a rule. The most recent bonus structured otherwise was written in fall 2014 and had one part with two sub-parts worth 5 points each (369315, should you care to look it up); it was also the only one written that competition year. More fundamentally different structures like 30-20-10 and "5 for one, 10 for two, 20 for three, and 30 for all four" had been defunct for at least a couple of years by then; indeed, I don't remember moderating on any of them ever (I've been moderating at NAQT championships since 2009, and I scorekept for you at the 2008 HSNCT), though I do remember them as a player. So I would say 2014 is the fundamental answer to your question, but it's possible the editorial policy wasn't formalized until a little later. Jonah (talk) 17:05, 18 April 2021 (CDT)