Okay. I think we can all agree that the poll is a wee bit subjective. DUH! Most of us mock the poll's results, either with a ballot or after the fact. (Case in point, Craig, I don't think Duke is better than Maryland, Berkeley, or Stanford, even with Gourab. But it's funny that someone voted us first, so there you go.) As for your claim of Canadians being hosed, well, Western Ontario was the Canadian champion, and look at their performance at the ICT! They finished ahead of only Vanderbilt (Matt Schneller showing more guts than I ever could) and Johns Hopkins (who never showed up Friday and couldn't recover). Granted, they could've done better -- David was off his game, which I can believe having practiced against him -- but how much so? We only know what we see of those teams, and if that was all Canada's best could muster, then there's a long way to go. As for whether we should "go over [to England]" rather than have them come here, we have. In 1997 or something, Michigan (CBI USA champions) faced Imperial (CBI UK champions) in Europe. I can't remember the result, so I'll leave it to someone there to finish the story. But considering it's an expense for anyone to go anywhere, keeping it to the US and Canada is sufficient. Which returns us, apparently, to the issue as to whether one is better than the other. Here's your problem: the two don't really cross over that often, and the US is so huge that most teams never see their Canuck friends. I know I'd be surprised if anyone from north of the original Mason-Dixon Line visited a Southern invitational, let alone if a Canadian team penetrated to North Carolina. So I'm going by the results, and the results of stuff like the ICT isn't good. One last thought: I'd rather not have a flamewar sprout up on a newsboard such as this. We've been there, done that, torn the T-shirt to shreds in frustration. Let's just put it to rest by saying that quizbowl is a test of mainly American culture, and as such Canadians are at a disadvantage, but someday Queen's or UWO or Fraser might bust through and crack the Top 25. How would I know? What do I look like, the ACF Nostradamus? Let's just settle this in the only place it matters... the classroom. :-) Andy
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