I agree with Nathan to a point, because it does seem like a backhanded compliment ("So-and-so is a good female player" implying that she's not that great of an overall player compared to the best male players). At the same time, I do think it's important that the entire quiz bowl world look at ways of being more inclusive. Encouraging women to participate in this activity is one way of doing this. I've coached high school in Illinois and Wisconsin, and my experience has been that over 80% of all players are male... isn't something wrong with that? I don't know what the exact distribution is at the college level, but my impression has been that not too many women play in college, either. In terms of solutions to this problem, I will venture into uncharted territory to give one tiny bit of input about what might make women on average less interested in our favorite activity: Rampant overly aggressive and juvenile intellectual chest thumping, as exemplified by the recent "Best Player" flame war on this list. I'm not claiming everybody is guilty of this, only that certain individuals are guilty of this at times, giving quiz bowl a bad name (and even though some women might participate in this as well, I think the average intelligent female quiz bowl prospect will be turned off by some of the attitudes displayed by the worst offenders). Thanks for listening, and please don't thump me into the ground. Phil Blessman Conserve School Quiz Bowl -----Original Message----- From: thefool75 [mailto:no_reply_at_yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:39 AM To: quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com Subject: [quizbowl] Re: Best Female Players--Who Cares? I don't understand the relevance of this thread... Why don't we just ask who's the best Greek-Hungarian player, or the best Indian player or the best player who wears glasses--until someone demonstrates that their is an innate relationship between one's gender and one's QB competency--I tend to think of this as rather demeaning to women (because apparently they need to be singled out because you know, women can't be as good as men....) Why not just say that so and so is a good player--why qualify it--aren't you really saying, "she's good for a girl." my 3 cents, nathan Flame away. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=247865.3269369.4566997.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705 059196:HM/A=1482387/R=0/*http:/ads.x10.com/?bHlhaG9vaG0xLmRhd=1052487535 %3eM=247865.3269369.4566997.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705059196:HM/A=148238 7/R=1=1052487535%3eM=247865.3269369.4566997.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170505 9196:HM/A=1482387/R=2> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=247865.3269369.4566997.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1482387/rand=907424524> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: quizbowl-unsubscribe_at_yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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