"There's a serious difference between a tournament being elitist and its attendees being elitist. Say what you will about the major formats -- and much has been said -- but the thing which separates NAQT from ACF (for many of my teammates -- as said before, I'll play damn near anything) is that ACF seems to be disinterested in the enjoyment of all teams, choosing instead to focus merely on the top few. The result? NAQT has 36 contenders for best team in the nation, while ACF has 16. Such is their prerogative. Having not attended a CBI National (sigh), I have no idea how they handle things, so I will not comment further. Yet I do know how things were apparently handled by the players themselves." Perhaps I misunderstand what is being said here; I am going to respond to what *I think* is the point of this, but if I have in some way misconstrued, then I hope you will both accept my apologies in advance and accept my invitation to clarify things. What I think this is saying is that: a) ACF had fewer attendants at its Nationals than NAQT because of elitism (or, at least, the more exclusionary aspects of elitism), though I didn't catch from whom this elitism is manifest; is it the tournament or the teams, or maybe the format? I don't see how the charge can stick to the first. The field at Nationals was not artificially closed, to my knowledge; anyone who wanted to play at Nationals were free to do so - provided they wrote packets or paid the appropriate fees - no matter how they played at other tournaments. As to the second: it may well be that the teams that came to Nationals consider themselves an exclusive club, an "elite" cadre (I didn't get that hit off most of the people there, but maybe I missed something), hence the smaller field. But it seems to be as likely - if not more so- that the field was smaller because fewer teams were able to make it to Ann Arbor than Saint Louis; furthermore, perhaps fewer teams enjoy ACF than NAQT. This doesn't neccessarily emply elitism unless the format itself is somehow inherently elitist. Which leads to the second point your post seems to have made: b) You seem to suggest that ACF seems to be disinterested in the enjoyment of all teams, choosing instead to focus merely on the top few. And this is certainly possible; I don't know the people at the top of ACF all that well, and it may be that all share the conviction that "If they aren't Michigan or Virginia or <insert good team here>, who cares what they think of the questions". If they do feel this way, however, they have never expressed that feeling publicly to all or privately to me; and I do know that this wasn't the sentiment of Jim Dendy, Don Windham, or Carol Guthrie, the leaders of the former incarnation of ACF, whom I know a bit better. Their view (which I suspect is inherited by and common to the heads of the current incarnation) was that ACF should be designed for the enjoyment of all. It so happened that there were some teams who were not going to like the questions no matter how hard or easy, and that many of these tended to be among the less successful, and it was true that their complaints tended to be taken less seriously than those of the more devoted, better teams. But in the view of the heads of old-ACF, if only the "top teams" at a tournament liked the questions and everyone else was dissatisfied, they percieved that to be problematic, as much as if only the "bottom teams" liked the questions and everyone else complained. It doesn't seem to me that elitism obtains here; nor, I think it can safely be asserted, am I one of the "top players" whose judgement is obfuscated by elitism inherent in ACF, and thus compelled to defend it. I may well not have a handle on the situation, but from my perspective what you have suggested does not apply. Or have I failed to grasp your point?
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