This is a bit off-topic, but I think it's an important thing for folks to know. If anything, it points out some of the problems in situations where people are mass-screened, sometimes by folks with unclear scientific or clinical credentials, for conditions that may carry a social stigma. Edmund wrote: > Isn't there some statistics theorem that says there's always way more false positives than false negatives? To which Dave Thorsley responded: > Suppose there's a condition that affects 1% of the population, and also that there's a diagnostic test that's 99% effective and assigns false positives and false negatives with equal probability. (details deleted for brevity -- see previous message) A VITALLY important take-home message, reflected very nicely in Dave's parameters: It's important to realize the contribution of three factors here. * The sensitivity of the test (roughly speaking, its ability to detect true positives). * The specificity of the test (roughly speaking, its ability to detect true negatives) * The prevalence in the tested population of the condition for which one is testing. How does this affect me, you say? Well, for one thing, in a mass screening for any condition that's not expected to be highly prevalent in the test population, one can expect a lot of false positives -- sometimes even many times those of true positives. One example might be random drug testing in a large population where only a small percentage of the test subjects are actually drug users. (In a population where drug abuse actually *is* highly prevalent, such as a group of addicts who have had repeated relapses after multiple trips to detox, the true-to-false-positive ratio would be much higher for the same test method.) If anyone wants a more detailed but not overly mathematical treatment of this subject, here's a resource from the CDC's web site: <a href=http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/rt/sensitivity.htm target=new>http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/rt/sensitivity.htm</a> This is a model of HIV screening, using a test with 99.6% specificity, in populations with different HIV prevalences. A somewhat more detailed site from the Medical University of South Carolina points out that even a test with 99.9% specificity and 99.9% sensitivity must be interpreted with prevalence in mind: <a href=http://www.musc.edu/dc/icrebm/sensitivity.html target=new>http://www.musc.edu/dc/icrebm/sensitivity.html</a> Julie
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